Wednesday, 15 December 2010

The Alleged Economic Benefits Of Immigration And More Sobering News On The Economy.

When discussing mass immigration proponents will tell you that immigration increases a nation's economic activity. The implication is that the national standard of living increases with it. Therefore it is absurd to be opposed to mass immigration because who is opposed to increasing one's standard of living? It may be true that mass immigration does bring an increase in a nation's economic activity but this does not necessarily translate into an increase in the national standard of living.

To take a simple but not unrealistic example imagine an immigrant from South Korea who settles in Toronto and opens a neighbourhood corner store. He has already contributed to Canada's economic activity simply by traveling here because he would have employed the services of others to get here. He will also employ the services of others to help him navigate Canada's immigration laws. He contributes further to Canada's economic activity by buying basic goods and services. To make a living he opens a corner store. This too contributes to economic activity. Despite all of this he has thus far done nothing to increase the standard of living of Canadians and most likely never will. The fact that he is in Canada and has opened a small business has almost no effect on increasing Canadian's standard of living. The only ones who benefiting in this arrangement is immigrants, not Canadians.

It could be argued that one doesn't make a difference but many do. As reasonable as this sounds this isn't the case. Having gleaned this Australian op-ed piece from this thread we read:

That's fine for them, but it doesn't necessarily follow that a bigger economy is better for you and me. Only if the extra people add more to national income than their own share of that income will the average incomes of the rest of us be increased. And that's not to say any gain in material standard of living isn't offset by a decline in our quality of life, which goes unmeasured by gross domestic product.

The most recent study by the Productivity Commission, in 2006, found that even extra skilled migration did little or nothing to raise the average incomes of the existing population, with the migrants themselves the only beneficiaries.

This should be taken in consideration of a 2008 British House of Lords study that concluded the economic benefits of immigration to Britain is negligible. Since Canada accepts more immigrants per-capita than either Australia or the U.K. it is quite likely that any economic benefit mass immigration brings to Canadians on average is nil.

Toronto may be the canary in the mine. According to a recent survey Toronto ranked as the "most miserable city" in Canada. I don't know if I care to give this study much credence because how do you measure something like happiness? I will say that immigration has not made Toronto a more desirable place to live. Indeed, I say it is ruining it. What good has it brought to those who live there? A diversity of dishes in the guise of ethnic restaurants that are predominantly frequented by the city's childless cultural elites? Okay, what else? Take your time, I know it's hard to think of something else. Cultural festivals that most Torontonians don't go to? Anything else? That's it? Can't think of anything else?

What mass immigration has given Toronto is the worst gridlock in North America and as a consequence adding stress to the daily lives of Torontonians through increased commute times and more polluted air. It has contributed to escalating hydro rates through increased demand, has increased wait times in the city's emergency rooms, and is adding strain to the city's public services. Toronto now has a garbage problem it does not know how to solve. Immigration has created a scarcity of affordable housing and maintains upward pressure on the prices of single family dwellings thus negatively affecting both the poor and young families alike. Since housing in Toronto has become unaffordable to many, immigration is what is fueling urban sprawl threatening some of the most fertile soil in all of Canada while bringing Toronto's urban problems to the suburbs and beyond. The city is being divided up into ethnic ghettoes (including white ones) creating social tensions while becoming a place many a Canadian would find alien (and cause many a tourist to stop and make sure that they are in fact in Canada). And this is saying nothing of the jobs that will be denied to many Canadians in Toronto for the sake of "diversifying the workforce". Toronotonians, possibly all of Ontario, can expect higher taxes just to address the problems mass immigration has brought to the city. Talk of toll roads is just the start. So, if Toronto has become the "most miserable city" in Canada then it should be obvious why. These are things that determine one's quality of life and standard of living and immigration has attack it negatively while contributing to the economic activity of the city. Oh yeah, staged car accidents are on the rise but I'm sure it's unrelated.

With the above in mind the Toronto Star reports on a study that projects deepening income divides in the city by 2025.

Toronto is headed toward a scenario where nearly two thirds of residents will be in the low income bracket by 2025, according to a study released Wednesday.[...]

Prior to this latest update, one released last year that was based on the latest census data showed that 15 of the city’s middle income neighbourhoods have disappeared since 2001. The majority of these areas reverted to low income, where individual earnings were 20 to 40 per cent below the city average.

It shows that if current trends continue, a total of 10 per cent of the city will be middle income earners by 2025; 30 per cent will be upper middle income; and a whopping 60 per cent of Toronto’s residents will be in the low to very low income bracket, sources say.

That’s quite a swing from 1970, when 66 per cent of Toronto neighbourhoods were middle income, 15 per cent were upper income, and 19 per cent were low income.

But I'm sure immigration has nothing to do with. It's only a coincidence that the city's immigration and "minority-majority" population will also be around 60% at the same time.

So what of the economic health of the nation? Well, Canadians can expect persistent high unemployment for one thing while the Canadian economy crawls at a modest 1.6% growth rate until 2017. Bank of Canada governor Mark Carney reminds us "the crisis is not over" while Canadians are spending far beyond their means. This dangerous rise in debt levels coincided with the rise in precarious work (part-time, contract, seasonal, temporary) while well paying, stable full-time jobs with benefits are outsourced to the countries Canada is importing immigrants from in a two front attack on the incomes of working Canadians. Canadians, indeed the majority of North Americans, have witnessed a stagnation of real wages and incomes for the past thirty years.

Immigration has done nothing to increase the standard of living for Canadians and their incomes as they have to manage record levels of debt with precarious, insecure jobs just to maintain an illusion of prosperity. One has to wonder how much of this debt is being serviced by immigrants behaving like full fledged citizens of "shopping mall Canada", the only Canada they care to belong to. And the government's solution: maintain existing immigration trends for the foreseeable future including Canada's destructively high intake numbers. Thanks for nothing!

It is too often stated that Canada was built by immigration. If things don't get back under control it will ruin the country. Feel-good slogans and baseless assumptions will not be enough to save us. What is clear is that the vast majority of Canadians reap no benefits from the nation's immigration policy and are most likely victims of it in one way or another.

16 comments:

Anonymous said...

"Thanks for nothing!"

That's an accurate summation in describing what recent immigration trends have brought us.

Zero sum results over these past 35 years is what we have to show for our wasted efforts in opening the immigrant floodgates that has only brought us mayhem, misery and maladjustment to our major cities in the form of stagnated wages, grid-lock, racial conflict and hostility, etc. etc.

In fact, I can't think of one benefit that multiculturalism has brought to Canada. (restaurants don't count)

It's common knowledge that oil and water don't mix, but somehow it escaped the social engineers' notice that neither do the different races, thus ruining a perfectly good city (Toronto) for nothing.

Another result of this unnecessary racial integration that we're forced to endure, are disingenuous white people who now suffer from a heightened degree of "cognitive dissonance" -- or better yet, a severe case of induced platitudinal hypocrisy on a mass scale.

Ron said...

Third-World immigration is destroying Canada. I am unable to understand why bringing millions of non-White 'baby factories' into Canada is of any benefit to the existing population. Not only are unproductive, unwanted aliens being poured into the country, but they receive free money and housing from the foolishly-generous Canadian Government so that they can squat in comfort and crank out kids.
It not only has to stop, but must be REVERSED. Deport most of them..the sooner the better!

Anonymous said...

I am still in disbelief that such racist heart & minds exist in this great country of mine that I am so proud to have been born in... "non-white baby factories?" My mother is black too, and she only had one kid. I'm sorry that kid wasn't white enough for you, Sir.

Unbelievable. Look at yourselves, think about the impact these statements will have on some of your readers! DO you seriously wonder WHY there is censorship on people like you? It's abhorrent!

And my question to you is just this: if not for immigration, what IS your solution to the low birth rate within Canada that threatens the future of this country to sustain? I don't plan on having kids. I used to think I wasn't doing my "civil duty" by not wanting to reproduce, but now I know there are people who are saying to themselves, "Thank God!" because I'm not white!

Anonymous said...

Also, context. Toronto is Canada's most miserable city... at a self-reported rating of 4.15 out of 5!!

PaxCanadiana said...

DO you seriously wonder WHY there is censorship on people like you? It's abhorrent!

Yet here I am publishing your comment on my blog when I could have censored it by deleting it. How would that have made you feel? Would that have been Canadian of me?

It is often stated that what unites Canadians, new and established, is not race or religion or ethnicity but the sharing of Canadian values. Yet the more socially diverse and multicultural Canada becomes the more calls there are for the policing of the most fundamental principle of a functioning democracy: freedom of speech. If freedom of speech is a Canadian value, arguably the ultimate Canadian value, then how can you call yourself a Canadian when you think opinions that dare offend you should be censored?

In the "new Canada", the one being undemocratically imposed on us, freedom of speech must be monitored in order for the "new Canada" to prosper. That being the case then I don't want anything to do with it and it should be resisted.

PaxCanadiana said...

And my question to you is just this: if not for immigration, what IS your solution to the low birth rate within Canada that threatens the future of this country to sustain?

The birth rate is low for several reasons. One being that many women are forgoing motherhood for the sake of a fleeting frivolous career. This is their choice and they are free to make it but their decision does have greater impact on society that they haven't bothered to give any consideration to. Since they tend to be selfish creatures anyways I think it best they don't have kids.

However there are many women, most I'd say, who want to have a family but the cost of living in Canada is high. Taxes are going up and real incomes have been stagnant for the past 30 years.

The immigration system has not made an impact on the birth rate. Indeed, StatsCan has proven that immigrant women tend to have as low a birth rate as Canadian born. The children of immigrants will have low birth rates as well. Only Muslims beat the norm. This suggest that social causes are the culprit the prime being the cost of living.

Canadians have experienced a stagnation in real incomes for the past thirty years while the cost of living has increased. Immigration has not made Canadians better off, in fact the immigration system costs more than it is worth.

The immigration system is inadequate to reverse the aging demographic trend and the birth rate as it is too costly to maintain as is. For instance, it is estimated that it cost $2.3 billion dollars a year to
service the refugee system alone.

By cutting immigration intake numbers, streamlining the system and making it more selective, as well as cutting funding to the parasitic immigration industry the funds can be redirected to reward those who have children in the form of tax breaks, etc.

Also taxing singles as a way to redirect funds to those who have children who will sustain the country since singles can't be bothered nowadays to think of anyone but themselves. This is why the "child free" are immigration boosters. They have outsourced their social responsibility while reaping the rewards.

Historically Canada has depended on a natural growth rate to grow its population. It has to return to that. Despite the propaganda Canada stopped being a nation of immigrants over a century ago.

I used to think I wasn't doing my "civil duty" by not wanting to reproduce, but now I know there are people who are saying to themselves, "Thank God!" because I'm not white!

I don't know what you mean by that but yeah, don't reproduce. I cannot see how a future Canada will be better of with more people like you. The less there are of you the better the country will be.

Lime Lite said...

@Pax - agree with you 100%. There is a total onslaught on Western countries by brainwashing us to believe that we need immigrants to sustain the aged; and also that the local birth rate isn't high enough. This is an artificial way to sustain any population. What do they think happens down the line when these same "immigrants" reach retirement? Oh, of course, we need even more immigrants to sustain that demographic - and so the destructive cycle continues. It's nothing but a blatant lie to con us into believing we need more immigrants. If they would stop this madness now then the country can revert to it's natural give and take. I also agree with your reasons why the birthrate is low. In order to sustain the huge influx of immigrants, taxes are diverted to pay for them thereby putting pressure to create wealth. How do they achieve this? By increasing taxes and then the cost of living increases. Naturally, once the cost of living increases it stops people from having children. If the government would rather put the money they waste on immigrants into supporting the child-bearing demographic then not only would the population keep pace, but the cost of living wouldn't increase at the rate it is. It's only common sense but we can't expect our 'leaders' to get it. Living in Australia, we see the same pressures that you are experiencing from the mad immigration policy of our government. It has to give somewhere down the line, but alas, it will be too late as our European people would have been bred out of existance by then.

Anonymous said...

"Unbelievable. Look at yourselves, think about the impact these statements will have on some of your readers! DO you seriously wonder WHY there is censorship on people like you? It's abhorrent!"

Is that really you, or just theatrical hyperbole working away on your keyboard attempting to guilt-trip PaxCanadiana into falling in the "I'm sorry" trap? (Incidentally, you're addressing a ma'am, not a "Sir")

Perhaps you've had some success at admonishing 10 yr. old school children, but it ain't going to work here. .....and, you've heard of the notion of free speech, as has already been pointed out to you?

I'm a white Canadian guy and an avid reader/supporter of this blog, but also a reader of Elizabeth Wright's blog. You would find some inspiration there, if you were an open-minded, free speech advocate other than the "book-burning", Marxist supporter you appear to be.

Incidentally, there is nothing more damaging than enforced multi-racialism that "threatens the future of this country".

I may return to this topic with further points to make, but it is New Year's Eve........

Anonymous said...

"I don't know what you mean by that but yeah, don't reproduce. I cannot see how a future Canada will be better of with more people like you. The less there are of you the better the country will be."

Wow, what prudent and wise words here! Clearly, I was wrong in my hastily-worded assertion that the people who frequent this blog are ideologically abhorrent! I shouldn't make such snap judgments next time when confronted with thinly-veiled racists! Forgive me, I see now that I should've typed "civic duty;" clearly, this mis-typing is reflective of my total lack of value as a human being, IQ of 130, good work ethic and reputation for being a loyal friend notwithstanding.

Pax, I understand the situation with incomes being stagnant after adjusting for inflation over the course of the last 30 years; in fact, I've argued this same point myself on many occasions. This is, I believe, a direct result of CEO pay increasing by 500% over the same time period. Productivity levels and corporate profits are at record highs, and yet the average person does not see the benefit. We refuse to demand change of the system because of the "socialism is bad and will cause businesses to relocate" mentality we've had drilled into our heads by the right-wing simpletons whom you surely represent, in spite of the fact that apathy on our parts toward the growing income divide has done little to quell the jobs we are bleeding anyhow.

I see you being a reactionary (read: racist) lot, your first instinct is to jump on the non-white, but my opinion remains that it's OK to talk about the systemic problems and potentional solutions - I maintain that this can be done without demonizing the "non-white, third-world hordes," as you people so gracefully put us. Whether you like to admit it or not, the "liberal media" is not the reason you have this reputation. The fact that you're espousing "controversial ideas" is not the reason you have this reputation. Plainly and simply, YOU ARE!!

Anonymous said...

"Perhaps you've had some success at admonishing 10 yr. old school children, but it ain't going to work here. .....and, you've heard of the notion of free speech, as has already been pointed out to you?"

I'm 24. Just because I state an opinion here that is directly opposed to yours does not make me a "school child." Does your snap judgment of others immediately render you a smug bastard? Which do you think is more likely?

Anonymous said...

"(Incidentally, you're addressing a ma'am, not a "Sir")"

Incidentally, Anonymous, the username to whom I was replying when I referenced his quote is "Ron."

Anonymous said...

"By cutting immigration intake numbers, streamlining the system and making it more selective, as well as cutting funding to the parasitic immigration industry the funds can be redirected to reward those who have children in the form of tax breaks, etc."

My question to you is just this: Do you HONESTLY believe throwing money at people is going to work? Because many parts of Europe have been doing so for a decade and they're all still coming up short with the number of children. You can't change the CULTURE or MINDSET of a contemporary people by throwing money at them to have kids. Believe me, I know. My bf and I may not be rich, but we certainly could fund a "baby-making" venture if we truly wanted to, as could many other Canadians.

Anonymous said...

"I'm a white Canadian guy and an avid reader/supporter of this blog, but also a reader of Elizabeth Wright's blog. You would find some inspiration there, if you were an open-minded, free speech advocate other than the "book-burning", Marxist supporter you appear to be."

No, I am a genuine liberal who is quite open with my stances and able to express why they are so. I'm assuming you're not the type of person who would try and coax someone into accepting contrary ideas by having them presented by a person with racial likeness because you prey on the presumably naive, as you APPEAR to be, though:)

PaxCanadiana said...

Do you HONESTLY believe throwing money at people is going to work?

It's not a guarantee but it's a place to start. Of course, it should be done with a government initiative to encourage the population to have children but since this offends the vocal minority of childless cultural elites living in downtown Toronto it will be met with objection.

It's either throw money at Canadians to have children or throw money away at immigration. The costs of maintaing immigration are staggering which is why it is not reported and so estimates have to be given. But the immigration system is a Ponzi scheme and it will get too costly to maintain without it hurting the economy if it isn't doing so already. It will collapse on itself. A natural growth rate is preferable to immigration.

You can't change the CULTURE or MINDSET of a contemporary people by throwing money at them to have kids.

Which culture and mindset are you talking about? Downtown Toronto types? Rural Canadians? The religious or secular? Who exactly?

PaxCanadiana said...

Pax, I understand the situation with incomes being stagnant after adjusting for inflation over the course of the last 30 years; in fact, I've argued this same point myself on many occasions. This is, I believe, a direct result of CEO pay increasing by 500% over the same time period. Productivity levels and corporate profits are at record highs, and yet the average person does not see the benefit.

How is letting in 260,000 immigrants into the country going to change any of this? How is it going to make life for Canadians better? Are you not willing to accept the possibility that immigration is being used as a weapon to attack working Canadians?

I see you being a reactionary (read: racist) lot, your first instinct is to jump on the non-white, but my opinion remains that it's OK to talk about the systemic problems and potentional solutions - I maintain that this can be done without demonizing the "non-white, third-world hordes," as you people so gracefully put us.

Non-white or white, too many immigrants is too many immigrants. Look at the U.K. for example. Much of the objection to immigration is toward an influx of Eastern Europeans.

As for some who frequent my blog I think their objections to becoming a racial white minority in Canada is understandable. They feel like they are being attacked. Try to personalize it yourself and think how comfortable you will be at being a racial minority anywhere. That plus I don't see the point in making whites a minority in Canada. Indeed, I think it will further racial tensions and make Canada a more racist place.

Anonymous said...

Canada has betrayed it's people. They do not care about their own children and we are silenced so those in power can do their dirty work. Why was the public not given a choice in votes as to waiting immigrants and multiculturism?
I am ashamed to tell people when I travel that i am Canadian. I am ashamed of this immoral country.
I am looking for any way possible to live in another country and get out of here! It is the only solution.........